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PostPosted: Sun Jan 06, 2008 11:13 pm Reply with quote
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For the life of me I can't identify this symbol. It's Masonic but other than that I've got nothin'. Googling produces evidence they're up to nothing benign...


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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Double-headed_eagle

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The double-headed eagle is a common symbol in heraldry and vexillology. It is most commonly associated with the Byzantine Empire. In Byzantine heraldry, the heads represent the dual sovereignty of the Emperor (secular and religious) and/or dominance of the Byzantine Emperors over both East and West. Several Eastern European nations adopted it from the Byzantines and continue to use it as their national symbol to this day, the most prominent being Russia. However, the design was in use in the East for centuries before it was officially adopted by the Byzantines, and was independently adopted as the symbol of several other historical states, such as early medieval Armenia and possibly the Seljuk Sultanate of Rûm

The two-headed eagle appears on the coat of arms of the following countries and territories:

Albania
Armenia
Austria-Hungary (historical)
Austria (1934-1938)
Byzantine Empire (historical)
Greece (historical)
Holy Roman Empire (historical)
Montenegro
Republika Srpska in Bosnia and Herzegovina
Russian Federation
Russian Empire (historical)
Seljuk Empire (historical)
Serbia and Montenegro (historical)
Serbia
Kingdom of Yugoslavia (historical)
Kingdom of Serbs, Croats and Slovenes (historical)
It also appears on the following flags:

Flag of Albania
Flag of Montenegro
State Flag of Serbia
the flag of the Greek Orthodox Church, which is also
the flag of the autonomous monastic state of Mount Athos


http://cemeteries.wordpress.com/2006/09/04/double-headed-eagle-scottish-rite-freemasonry/

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This double-headed eagle symbol is for the Ancient and Accepted Scottish Rite of Freemasonry. The number 32 inside the triangle represents the 32nd degree of the Scottish Rite. The Latin motto, “Spes mea in Deo est,” means “My hope is in God.”


And for the DC streets theory... if they did make designs with the streets, i guess that's kinda cool, but not much more than that... but for the most part, i think it's just matrixing because there's still at least three angled streets that aren't highlighted at all... are those not special too?

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That street thing was found on a paranoid anti-Masonic page. The bogeyman makes it impossible to take it seriously. It looks like that yeti from that old skiing game.
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Yea, whenever History or others show that, it usually looks like the Freemason compass symbol, putting a head and horns on it is new to me...

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http://beaconofmasoniclight.blogspot.com/search/label/Hiram%20Abiff



This is the closest i can find to a Freemason symbol with the circle and horns...

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It's funny the Latin motto has the word God in it when the Mason's are not specifically Christian or Jewish, they only require that you believe in a higher power...this could be Satan according to their rulebook, and you are not allowed to ask them nor are they allowed to ask you about your religion.

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being why i always thought there was a flaw in the G symbol meaning God... that, plus the latin "God" doesn't start with G... so... that's kinda going a bit off the Mason patterns too. But that's what History and the like keep saying it means...

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http://lodgeeagle.org/eagle/banner_logo.htm

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The golden yellow square and compasses with G in the centre refer to the Craft and the central role played by the GATOU in Masonic consciousness.


I found this reference in only a couple places (one being a Christian Anti-Mason site, so i didn't give it much credit--but the one cited is actually a Mason site). I can't really figure out what GATOU is, or why it is capitalized in every reference...

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The other thing about the map is that any city built on a grid pattern is going to have sites in a line. Shocking! You mean that if you go straight down this street, eventually you will find another important but completely unrelated building? Oh my...

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Surveyors have laid out roads and cities off of a grid since the dawn of man...it just works out better that way.

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anyone from Detroit who understands the Mile roads knows how that whole thing works...
Most of DC was designed by Masons to begin with, so sure, it's possible that they got artsy with it like they do with most things they play with, but even if they did... so what.

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If you've ever been to North Carolina you'll know that the way they laid out roads was to get a goat good and drunk, then follow him for a few hours. Where ever he happened to wander, that's where your road went.

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Yaish wrote:
If you've ever been to North Carolina you'll know that the way they laid out roads was to get a goat good and drunk, then follow him for a few hours. Where ever he happened to wander, that's where your road went.



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If masons laid out the initial street plan for DC, it would be natural and normal to 'sign it' with such an alignment, but it looks more to me like a map version of pareidolia, of finding a subjectively meaningful pattern among a whole bunch of possible connect points. Given ten minutes, I'd bet any of us could also find a swastika, a peace sign, the McDonalds golden arch, etc. Advocates of 'ley lines' do the pareidolia thing on a global scale.

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If the "yeti" is actually that B-J prince or whatever, then where are the ones doing the "M", "C", and "A"?
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